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 Post subject: Couple of Diesel GS's
PostPosted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 9:13 pm 
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one on Ebay http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/landrover-101-fwd-control-/151147858017?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item23311d4861

one on Gumtree http://www.gumtree.com/p/cars-vans-motorbikes/landrover-101-deisel-will-swap-camper-boat-or-nice-car-or-road-legal-raptor/1033770740


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 6:06 pm 
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Now only one for sale on Ebay. The other one is coming to me :D :D :D :mrgreen: :D :D :D

It's a project - which is what I wanted. Any narrow boat, dumper truck or tractor fans on the forum? There'll be a perkins 3.8 for sale sometime soon :lol:


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 10:01 am 
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So, what are you planning to fit in its place? Tdi or something bigger?? :D

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I've a choice 200tdi or Td5 :shock: as in the time I've been looking for a 101 project managed to purchase a couple of poorly disco's. In any case it'll be Land Rover drivetrain diesel and auto - hence looking for project vehicle rather than something too original

I like both engines, but for different reasons. 200tdi is a good solid burn anything slug with an elastic band timing belt and a propensity to split head gaskets just to get attention. The td5 solid performer with timing chain, no injection pump and an easy peasy electronic system, with a manufacturer supported ECU. probably won't run on rancid butter like a 200tdi, but I'm not going overland for at least 5 years so...

I'm more drawn to the td5 as it's power curve is a match for the 3.5V8 ~ 135hp @ 4800rpm with the advantage of 45 more torques 221 ftlb @ 1800rpm.


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I bet with the r380 and 1.003:1 ratio transfer case the td5 would be a beast in 101

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I've a choice 200tdi or Td5 :shock: as in the time I've been looking for a 101 project managed to purchase a couple of poorly disco's. In any case it'll be Land Rover drivetrain diesel and auto - hence looking for project vehicle rather than something too original

I like both engines, but for different reasons. 200tdi is a good solid burn anything slug with an elastic band timing belt and a propensity to split head gaskets just to get attention. The td5 solid performer with timing chain, no injection pump and an easy peasy electronic system, with a manufacturer supported ECU. probably won't run on rancid butter like a 200tdi, but I'm not going overland for at least 5 years so...

I'm more drawn to the td5 as it's power curve is a match for the 3.5V8 ~ 135hp @ 4800rpm with the advantage of 45 more torques 221 ftlb @ 1800rpm.


I personally wouldn't even consider the Td5 engine. the fuel system is so problematic in that it requires such a high pressure fuel supply, the cylinder head crack around the internal fuel gallery and leak fuel into the sump, this causes none starting in extreme cases, the injectors can fail, the wiring harness fills with oil up to the ECU. Shall I go on?...

New Cylinder heads cost £1500 upwards, won't run on poor quality fuel, the oil pump drive chain pulley falls off on early engines, the dual mass flywheel wears out and rattles....
I'll stop now. :lol:

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I personally wouldn't even consider the Td5 engine. the fuel system is so problematic in that it requires such a high pressure fuel supply, the cylinder head crack around the internal fuel gallery and leak fuel into the sump, this causes none starting in extreme cases, the injectors can fail, the wiring harness fills with oil up to the ECU. Shall I go on?...

New Cylinder heads cost £1500 upwards, won't run on poor quality fuel, the oil pump drive chain pulley falls off on early engines, the dual mass flywheel wears out and rattles....
I'll stop now. :lol:[/quote]

I hear what your saying - you missed off the injectors need to be coded to the ECU, New injectors are £300 each & there's 5, fuel filters are £40 a go and the fuel cooler leaking internally and that the tank pump is a PITA to fit. But your trying to talk sense to a bloke who's getting a 101 :shock:

Head for £1500!!!!!!! thats more than I just paid for a '99 Disco 2 auto delivered to my door from Aberdeen. Ok someone's remodelled the front corner...

3.54 60" track coil axles anyone?


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spongie wrote:
I bet with the r380 and 1.003:1 ratio transfer case the td5 would be a beast in 101


That's a conundrum, the auto box really messes with low 1st compared to both the LT95 or R380!

I keep messing with the ratio calculator and there's more than one way to achieve reasonable revs at highway speeds. But then again the idea of a 101 isn't for high speed motorway blats, we all know they're made for cruising and being a chick magnets :lol:


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My 200tdi is hooked up to lt77 and the 1.003:1 transfer case and seems to be right on calculator will see when it's built if that's correct

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My 200tdi is hooked up to lt77 and the 1.003:1 transfer case and seems to be right on calculator will see when it's built if that's correct


Have you still got the original diffs or changed to 4.7?


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Original diffs.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 25, 2013 2:27 am 
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There's a Td5 powered 101 here in Oz... and by all accounts it goes very well. I'm a fan of the Td5, and ran one in a 130. Had the usual dowel problems and oil in the harness, but other than that it was great. Am now in the middle of getting 'the diesel' ready for mine. Cummins 6Bt and ZF5-42 close coupled to a 1.003:1 transfer case with 4.7:1's in the diffs... Still not sure what the cruising speed will be... I've always got the 3.54:1 option!! :lol:
Personally if you are sticking to a Land Rover lump, I'd go with the Td5. Tdi's will run a 101 ok, but they are working fairly hard. Those that say a large 6 can't be fitted, watch this space! Either way, enjoy your 101!! :D

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Td5 in an Aussie 101? Details!!!

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I run a td5 in a defender, they are very easy to tune and very reliable. I have had mine for more than 5 years and only replaced 3 injectors. The fuel rail harness replaced as a precaution. It has been tuned and remapped and now puts out about 180 hp, ( my estimate). Tuning is easy on these engines.
As for the fuel, I have run it on bio diesel at 100% for 5 years with no problems apart from waxing up in cold weather, a problem I have now solved.
Don't be put off by others comments, try it for yourself.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 25, 2013 9:17 am 
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Yeah. Not seen it, but the mechanic of the guy I bought mine off so say has one.. By all accounts it goes quite well too!! Hoping to head that way in mine next yr so might do a bit more looking into it!! :D. Mick might know more...

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 25, 2013 10:17 pm 
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Td5 in an Aussie 101? Details!!!


I'll second that - details please! My main concern is weight distribution... I've seen those black & white photo's of the 101 doing stoppies :shock:


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Yeah. Not seen it, but the mechanic of the guy I bought mine off so say has one.. By all accounts it goes quite well too!! Hoping to head that way in mine next yr so might do a bit more looking into it!! :D. Mick might know more...


AJ or an employee of?

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 27, 2013 7:03 am 
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Employee of I believe. Will c what I can find out. :D

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I thought he was a mate of AJ's (as most Ausie 101 owners become).
Spoken to the fellow a couple of times. Seen the 101 once. It's ex-UK. Not one of the Ausie delivered.
From the accounts I have heard, it goes very well. The owner spoke about getting through some very soft sand around Cameron Corner (there's an address for the UK types to look up).
I've seen it drive and seems to go very well. The owner told me it goes so well he tends to use it as a daily drive, something he was not intending.
I think I've posted a picture of it on here somewhere. I know I've posted pictures somewhere.

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I can imagine it would be a pleasant thing to drive, especially with power steering.
I like the Td5, I really do, but there's still a few to many potentially expensive problems for me to want to buy and fit one.

Maybe in a few years?

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