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PostPosted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 3:06 pm 
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It's in the US - is this for real ? Did the RAF convert any ?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Land-Rov ... 220wt_1167


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 7:25 pm 
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Err no the RAF did nto convert any, it is a after release conversion!!!

i am sure that the "old fart" :wink: will be along shortly :!: ...

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It's in the US - is this for real ? Did the RAF convert any ?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Land-Rov ... 220wt_1167

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 7:31 pm 
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That's what I figured - though the seller is trying to flog it on the basis that it's a "rare conversion" done in service !

Some interesting pics mind....


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 10:04 pm 
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A 4.236? Fair enough it'll pull a house down, but if it's running standard diffs then a balls out top speed of 45mph might be possible.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 9:10 am 
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Someone else has built a high speed tractor then!

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 11:38 am 
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Yes another messed up 101 and now making extraordinary claims to try to get rid of it. At least a chassis number was given to allow a buyer to check the info this time. I tend to agree with our serving member and RAF expert that the RAF did not, as far as I know, convert any of their vehicles to diesel propulsion? However, if you check the chassis number on the club register it doesn't come up with a military VRN that I recognise as being a RAF VRN. Finally I wouldn't touch it with a barge pole!

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I reckon a 200 tdi could be put in, as easy as the Perkins was, which could be taken out. Or if your made of money, and didn't mind it failing to start occaisionally and suffer with missfires when it shown a glass of water, you could even put a V8 back in it. :lol:

Certainly no reason to avoid it with a barge pole.

If a diesel 101 was such a bad idea, why did landrover offer to retrofit all the Armed forces 101's with the "new at the time" 200tdi's when they were trying to keep the services fleet British.

Its attitudes like that, that caused the idea to fail, and the end result...a fleet of Pinzguarers.

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Its no different to any other 101 on the road.....You buy what you see in front of you & accept any modifications if you so choose. Modification can make it better.....or worse depending on the owners preference. :idea:

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Gearchange linkage passing over the engine cover? Hmm...

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DasLandRoverMan wrote:
A 4.236? Fair enough it'll pull a house down, but if it's running standard diffs then a balls out top speed of 45mph might be possible.


Utter bo**cks!! My 4236 cruises quite happily at 65mph on standard diffs and standard transfer gears, although I have got an overdrive. No louder than a tdi either !!

I don't have that odd gear linkage though.

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Its attitudes like that, that caused the idea to fail, and the end result...a fleet of Pinzguarers


It was political interference, LR's offer was rejected as Reynolds Boughton were to be given the contract to replace the 101 with the hopeless RB44. This was a sop to shut them up after all their work in developing in developing DROPS was handed to another contractor. The Pinzgauer followed a long time later.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 10:20 am 
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Yes another messed up 101.
I don't think so but not sure the need for the dodgy gear change set up, I hope the engine is installed better than that,messed up well that depends on how you look at it , I would say that Roger HC's and Greame's 101 both with a perkins engines in are way better and usable than a V8. Although not original I'm of the opinion that this is a big improvement.
Finally I wouldn't touch it with a barge pole!
Personally I wouldn't touch a V8 with a barge pole or maybe just enough to remove it, I think if Land Rover were to build a 101 style truck to day I expect it would have a 3 to 4 litre Diesel engine in it not a petrol engine.
And if 101's originally came from the factory with Diesel engine in would there be that many people changing them to V8's I don't think so!!
And if you think that changing it to Diesel is expensive there are still plenty of good Discoverys for less than £500 just waiting to be doners. The Disco 200TDi and gearbox's is probably the easiest conversion to do and works well !!

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what mpg does that give you? (just in case the woodgas idea is pants!) :lol:


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Not usually less than 23 mpg sometimes nearer 25mpg should be the same on used veg oil. Going away for the weekend so doing decent test run on veg this weekend.
Diesel is now £5.13/gallon which at 23 mpg = £22.30/100 miles
Veg oil (not the cheapest I could get this time)
£2.04 /gallon which at 23mpg = £8.88/100 miles
Thats quite a saving

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And gas at 57p a litre compared to diesel at £1.19 a litre still makes a V8 an attractive prospect.

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When are they planning to increase the duty on LPG?.

Its attractive now, while its cheap and if you have LPG fitted.

I doubt I'll be paying out for a conversion, just to then have to spend more on the "cheaper for now" LPG when the duty increases, which it probably will when enough vehicles are fitted with it.

I reckon Diesel is still the best way to go, more economy, more torque, safer fire risk etc..

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