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 Post subject: Importing a 101 into France.
PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 12:25 pm 
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Hi all
I was down at the local Prefecture,trying to register my 101,of course they knew absolutely nothing about the vehicle,but ,luckily this was not too much of a problem.......so far.
I managed to convince the woman that the vehicle was indeed 1976(showed her the dates on the users manual),even though the V5C solely states"registration:1994",
I suppose there's two issues...A)She wants a "European certificate of conformity",and B) the "Control technique"(mot)..
Being both 1976 (though I may need proof of it's age) and ex-military I would of thought the vehicle complies as a "vehicle d'collection" thus bypassing all this,...and saving me over 300 euros!

Any advice/assistance greatly appreciated !


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 Post subject: Re: Importing a 101 into France.
PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 2:04 pm 
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Restrictions,if I take the "vehicle d'collection" route..

Belgium: 25 years. Not to be used as your everyday transport, traveling abroad is only allowed to meetings and oldtimer events. No road tax, cheap insurance.
France: 25 years. You must stay in your department and those next to it. Not to be used as your everyday transport, traveling abroad is only allowed to meetings and oldtimer events. Huge discounts apply for insurance. »Contrôle technique «is a lot easier.
UK: 33 years. No restrictions, no road tax.
US: 25 years, often the only way to import a Land Rover.
Germany: 30 years, very cheap road tax, simplified technical control but your vehicle must be »original«. You must own another vehicle which is fully taxed
Netherlands: 25 years. after 1st REGISTRATION. Oh socks. Details to be added later.
Italy: seems to be a major headache, like you have to be a member of a classical car club.
Spain: a vehicle is considered as historical 25 years after the offcial date of manufacture. It must preserve the original looks and parts. There is no restriction and no road tax. Technical controls are every to years till the age 0f 35 years, then every 5 years. It is highly recommended to join a classic car club. (I was told the expertizing needed can take up to 9 months)

I'm not too into limited travel with a camper!


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 3:52 pm 
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try posting this on the forum on ollr.net there's a couple of memebers who have taken old landies to france.

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 Post subject: Re: Importing a 101 into France.
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climbingchris wrote:
try posting this on the forum on ollr.net there's a couple of memebers who have taken old landies to france.

Chris


Ok,will do. :)

Thanks!


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 Post subject: Re: Importing a 101 into France.
PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 5:24 am 
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I have registered my 101 here in France without any problem.
You need to contact the FFVE, they will issue the document that is required by the prefecture.
The other option does not work, as LR have never imported the 101, therefore they will not issue a certificate of conformity (which Btw is 180€ and not 300€).

Where are you located?


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Restrictions,if I take the "vehicle d'collection" route..
France: 25 years. You must stay in your department and those next to it. Not to be used as your everyday transport, traveling abroad is only allowed to meetings and oldtimer events. Huge discounts apply for insurance. »Contrôle technique «is a lot easier.


Pffff ... I'd be curious as to where you found that info, which is all wrong.

In France with a CGC you have no travel restrictions at all (even abroad), "controle technique" is the same as for the other vehicles except that it is every 5 years (although the ambulance is in a "heavy" (poids-lourd) category so you'll have to find out how that works, as it's completely different from cars or a 101GS for instance - which are less than 3500kgs), and insurance has absolutely nothing to do with the type of registration of your vehicle, for old vehicle you can find specialized insurance companies where your premium depends only on the age of the vehicle.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 9:04 am 
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I have a 101 here and a lightweight.

I am in the process of registering my lightweight, it was built in 1979 so just comes under the FFVE scheme.
The lightweight has passed it's first CT (I did change the lights to LHD versions)
I have French insurance and just need to obtain the FFVE certificate to request the registration under the "vehicle d'collection". One document I also collected was the proof that VAT/TVA has been paid in the UK from the local Tax office.

The 101 is still a project vehicle (after 5 years), however I have already obtained it's FFVE certificate.
I collected the tax certificate - just showed the original bill of sale and UK registration document - from the local tax office.
I then completed the FFVE request and sent it off with the required documents, it took about 6 weeks and I have the certificate I can use to register the 101 as soon as it's back on the road and has a valid CT test.
With the FFVE certificate, you receive a book of vouchers. When you want to travel outside of the neighbouring departements, you complete the vouchers and send them off a few days before you travel. One copy to your local prefecture, another to FFVE, the third copy stays in the book.

Here is the link to FFVE

http://www.ffve.org/?option=com_downloa ... Itemid=129

and the form

http://www.ffve.org/templates/main/incl ... ame=95.pdf

If you need proof of the original build date, then you can apply for this from either the landrover archives or a copy of the military record card from the RLC Museum in Deepcut.



RLC
http://www.army.mod.uk/rlc/history/354.aspx

Hertitage Certificate
http://www.heritage-motor-centre.co.uk/ ... index.html


We use the local AXA office for all of our normal cars, so just used them for the landrovers too, however like kebir says, you can search for specialist insurers too.

Good luck with the registering

Robin

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 Post subject: Re: Importing a 101 into France.
PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 9:12 am 
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robinhugo wrote:
With the FFVE certificate, you receive a book of vouchers. When you want to travel outside of the neighbouring departements, you complete the vouchers and send them off a few days before you travel. One copy to your local prefecture, another to FFVE, the third copy stays in the book.

Not anymore. No vouchers, no restrictions since October 2009. You just turn the key and drive off, as far as the fuel in your tank will last you :D

Mind you I haven't used the stupid vouchers on any of my vehicles before that date either :mrgreen: :mrgreen:


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 Post subject: Re: Importing a 101 into France.
PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 9:54 am 
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Thanks Kebir, I've learnt something new today :D

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 Post subject: Re: Importing a 101 into France.
PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 7:08 pm 
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Thank's a million guys,that's really great information,MAAF are insuring me sans issue for 150euros ;o)

Sorry for the delay in replying my PC is kaput for now..


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 Post subject: Re: Importing a 101 into France.
PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 7:58 pm 
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I've just read the PDF(FFVE)

The chassis and wheelbase have been lengthened 2ft each respectivly (4ft in total)
..and the motor is now a Nissan SD33T,101bhp.. all done in 1994.

Will this be much of a problem?


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 Post subject: Re: Importing a 101 into France.
PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 5:07 am 
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any modification to the original vehicle, if it has been properly documented (if it is mentioned on the original V5), will be accepted and should be mentioned. On any other (not mentioned) mods, you'll have to keep your mouth shut.


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Understood.


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 Post subject: Re: Importing a 101 into France.
PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 7:56 pm 
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All good info for when I get my 101 down to the South West after the Bal des Series.

Cheers 8)

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